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No Wear to run and no place to hide

Posted by Lee on November 4, 2007 10:12 AM | 

There was no hiding place for Newcastle United after their 4-1 defeat against Portsmouth and Sam Allardyce has now got six days to sort things out for the biggest game of the season at the Stadium of Light.

Big Sam's tactical input since he took over had meant United were unbeaten at St James's Park this season before yesterday's farce unfolded.

And although Toon fans aren't yet convinced about the style of play Newcastle are playing in this new era, winning football matches keeps managers in jobs and smiles on the faces of supporters.

How you win sometimes doesn't matter but how you lose, like Newcastle did against Pompey, matters dearly to the folk of Tyneside.

Defeat when a team is exhausted on the full time whistle, when they are soaked in sweat, blood and snot and have attempted to block every tackle, keep every ball in touch and challenged for every single header still won't make you flavour of the month.

But it will at least show your watching public you care and make them a little bit more forgiving.

Yet against Pompey it was the visitors who gave Newcastle a lesson on how to play and how to perform away from home.

Harry Redknapp knew that, despite United's modern approach to the game and tactics of creating chances in the box by the amount of direct balls played into the penalty area, going for the throats of United from the word go and giving it a real go, and I mean a real go from the first whistle - he'd have the best chance of winning the contest.

And he was right.

For a minute he forgot about the modern game, ProZone and stats and figures and simply got his team fired up to win the battle - the old fashioned way.

Old fashioned as in when you throw teapots around dressing rooms and reward your players with cans of lager and fish and chips on the journey back.

And boy, how Newcastle could have done with that at Derby, Reading or Manchester City.

Redknapp used the traditional method of getting his side fired up and probably told his team they had nothing to lose considering they hadn't won since 1949 at Gallowgate.

They responded by chalking up a 3-0 lead with 11 minutes on the clock and that was game over there and then.

Some fans walked out long before the final whistle.

The boos around St James's at 3-0 were loud and clear, it was the same at half-time and the same by the end.

Shellshocked United had no chance of getting back into the game.

They appeared to lack a leader or an inspirational figure even though Steven Taylor did his best.

Yet even that looked to me like his team-mates weren't taking any notice of him.

So is this a blessing in disguise?

Have Pompey taught us a lesson in how to approach games away from home?

Yes they have, but how many Newcastle players paid attention in class?

Newcastle clearly have enough overseas stars who are talented enough to earn thousands of pounds a week.

But the nitty gritty of pulling on the black and white shirt is winning your home games and being up for the fight AND of course beating Sunderland is one of the reasons players like Steven Taylor wanted to become a professional footballer in the first place.

Toon stars like Abdoulaye Faye, Jose Enrique, Charles N'Zogbia, Cacapa (whose alarming dip in form was highlighted as part of the humiliation v Pompey), Geremi and Emre all have to be on top of their game at Sunderland.

Maybe forget ProZone for a week.

And perhaps don't bother showing them a video of where they went wrong against Pompey, that should now be obvious.

Pull down the big screen and show them the 2-0 play-off defeat against Sunderland in 1990 and how losing to that lot destroyed a lot of people's summers!

Show them Liam O'Brien's wonder goals and the scenes that followed, show the last ever win at Roker Park and pause the video from the last time when Michael Chopra scored.

He may be in red and white now, but that day required Geordie battlers and he delivered remember his face when he scored?

We've bounced back before from things like this 6-2 against Man U, 4-1 against Fulham and 5-1 against Birmingham but United could not be going into the derby in worse shape.

Can they hit back quickly?


(Least we aren't feeling as bad as 12 months ago!)

www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2006/11/sicker_than_parrots.html

Comments (17)

a e tolhurst wrote...

im afraid very afraid big sam pointed out that taylor should learn from the brazilian on how to defend. my perrenial sense of doom is back big style. no guile no skill no leadership are the net result of allerdyces first three month in charge. get rid mr ashley

Posted by: a e tolhurst  | November 4, 2007 1:55 PM

Jack Ruby wrote...

"Some fans walked out long before the final whistle."

A hell of a lot. When the fourth goal went in, Pompey fans singing, "We can see you sneaking out" were being kind - or ironic - or both. It was like a mass exodus. For may sins I stayed - as I always do - until the end, but this was as poor a game at SJP as I've seen in many a year and that includes Roeder's last and the Birmingham City debacle. Let's hope it shakes up the Big Boy and the players for next week - but I hope he doesn't play with four central midfielders again. Sunderland's defence are poor and we need to get about them and to do that we need Charlie and Milner on their (left and right respectively) wings.

Posted by: Jack Ruby  | November 4, 2007 6:51 PM

paul wrote...

harper beye taylor rozenhal enrique milner barton smith n'zog martins an viduka. That would be my tean v the scum. I picked martins ahead of owen cos would owen b able to handle the crunchin tackles that are bound to happen in such a heated game an smith in cm to add that extra bite in midfield

Posted by: paul  | November 4, 2007 7:48 PM

Philip Boyle wrote...

Newcastle will need great spirit against Sunderland. I agree with Jack Ruby's comments about "getting about or at the enemy". As the fans chanted at Reading, "Attack! attack! attack!". A club like Newcastle should have better attackers than smaller clubs - scare the hell out of them! The type of players we should be looking to sign should be in the mould of Peter Beardsley, Terry Hibbit, Tony Green, or David Ginola types. Class players like them or Keegan and Supermac made immediate impacts-I get the impression the whole team has to set up Michael Owen. His demeanour is hardly inspiring to team mates or fans. It's about time he and some other players started earning their salaries, and putting out. We have several players playing with great commitment, and others who are not. You can't win with half a team!

Posted by: Philip Boyle  | November 5, 2007 5:12 AM

Philip Boyle wrote...

Newcastle will need great spirit against Sunderland. I agree with Jack Ruby's comments about "getting about or at the enemy". As the fans chanted at Reading, "Attack! attack! attack!". A club like Newcastle should have better attackers than smaller clubs - scare the hell out of them! The type of players we should be looking to sign should be in the mould of Peter Beardsley, Terry Hibbit, Tony Green, or David Ginola types. Class players like them or Keegan and Supermac made immediate impacts-I get the impression the whole team has to set up Michael Owen. His demeanour is hardly inspiring to team mates or fans. It's about time he and some other players started earning their salaries, and putting out. We have several players playing with great commitment, and others who are not. You can't win with half a team!

Posted by: Philip Boyle  | November 5, 2007 5:13 AM

Paul Patterson wrote...

Much has been made about Sam Allardyces comments on Sky’s Goals on Sunday (Last week after Reading) programme on your sister papers blog, where Allardyce stated that he might have to drop a striker away from home and pack the midfield, this concerns me.

If we intend to sit back and “Nick the win� against Sunderland, we will FAIL.

The worry is Chopra hasn’t scored for some time and in Jones they have two strikers with something to prove.

On yesterdays Sunday Supplement, various journo’s commented that Newcastle fans started booing the side after the third goal went in and that this was particularly out of order, well excuse me, if watching three goals conceded in five minutes isn’t something to boo about, then I don’t know what is?

Eleven minutes into Saturdays farce, was the most amazed I have ever been as a Newcastle fan, goodness knows how the Portsmouth fans in the upper tier felt?

Things are going to get ugly for Sam Allardyce if we don’t beat Sunderland.

Now I’ve always said, to be a proper club, we have to get off this cloud that were on whenever a derby comes along, losing it should NOT have a great effect on one’s season, after all Manchester United get beat by Man City fairly often for such an all conquering side, but they still step up and collect the Championship with regular ease.

The thing that makes the game more important for us common folk in Newcastle is, well it’s simply all we have to look forward to usually, yes we’ve occasionally used the three points to gain access to the continent next season, but that won’t happen next term BELIEVE ME!!

Pride is all we have to play for this season, I don’t believe it, we’ve actually been reduced to. . . I can’t say it, it’s too much, Sunderland and Middlesbro’s level.

Last night I was asked by a youngster in the pub about Kevin Keegan’s reign as manager and how often did boring games occur, I told him I could remember many, and that got me thinking (Doesn’t take much I know) but I thought, Steve McClaren will be down the jobcentre in a few months and inevitably Allardyce will be linked with England once more.

Now call me a lunatic if you like (Please don’t though) Mr Ashley and Mr Mort wouldn’t stand in his way if he went to Soho square surely, in fact they’d probably see it as a good excuse for change (Remember they didn’t appoint him) but as a short term fix, maybe till the end of the season. . . (You know what I’m going to say don’t you?)

Paul.

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | November 5, 2007 10:07 AM

Ted Kane wrote...

KEE-GAN, KEE-GAN, KEE-GAN, KEE-GAN!

Posted by: Ted Kane  | November 5, 2007 11:14 AM

ArcadeFired wrote...

The most revealing analysis of Saturday's debacle was given not by Hansen, Desailly or any of the hacks on Sunday Supplement, but by Pompey striker Benjani. When asked about his side's fantastic away form this season, he said the difference had been the fact that they went into away games trying to win, getting at the home side and being positive from the start. Result? Five away wins on the spin. If Pompey can do it, why the hell can't we? We HAVE to go in to Saturday's game with that attitude otherwise we will be sunk. Better to die on our feet than live on our knees...

Posted by: ArcadeFired  | November 5, 2007 12:32 PM

James 09 wrote...

Completely agree that the manner of performance is very important for both supporters and the team itself.

We may not be in crisis mode yet but there are some very worrying signs here - and its not only the latest debacle. Schoolboy defending continues to haunt and humiliate Newcastle, along with the lack of creative bite and gutless performances. The Toon Army has every right to demand much better.

I disagree - replay the tapes again because they (not just the defence but the entire squad) obviously have not, perhaps they cannot, learn from their mistakes . Two leads lost at Boro, the capitulation at City and especially the embarrassments of Derby and Reading, and now Saturday's madness - classic Newcastle United.

Without significant improvement soon we are heading for yet another season of utter frustration. That improvement HAS to start this Saturday - and I just hope every staff member and player is well aware of what Saturday means to us. If not, the Allardyce regime is going to fast learn just how vocal the Toon Army can, and will be.

Posted by: James 09  | November 5, 2007 4:00 PM

Mark in Washington DC wrote...

I am getting that chill down my back..the same one I got when Glen R left. I have said it before and will say it again we have the squad but not a manager with the tactical ability to use them to full effect. Every week he changes the formation, plays players out of position, but then sticks with players who are out of form and drops his inform players. Martins on the bench and Owen on the pitch doing nothing (for the 3rd match in a row) Milner and Zobs playing on the wrong sides, Capa on the pitch when he was obviously not fit.

I am left with the alarming feeling that Sam (note left out the Big) is lost already. He has used up every excuss in the book and then some and now appears to resorting to panic shuffling of the team in the hope that the penny wil drop. Well Sam you the banker and you should know how to ballance your books. All I saw on Saturday was a lot of the old long ball play AGAIN and zero use of the excellent wingers we have.

I said it last week, the team looked well structured against Spurs with good timely subs coming off the bench. Finaly a shape that looked comfortable and happy together, so what did he do ripped it apart. He gives players no chance to gel and then forces them to play in positions that they are not used to when they could be playing in the natural flowing positions.

I am not normally one for calling for heads of managers on a whim, but we ain't played any of the big teams yet and Sam's legs are starting to buckle. I said it when we appointed him, he ain't a bad manager but he is not a top 6 manager either. Old English tactics is all he has.

Sam, maybe would should start listening to the fans as they see to be the only one watching the game and how our players perform best.

Lose against Sunderland and he will feel the true wrath of the toon army bearing down on him from the stands.

...one last point..Can someone let Owen know there is space to run around outside the box..Sorry Michael this aint a morgage, you aint got 25 years to pay the the club back for standing by you, you need to make a big deposit and soon.

Posted by: Mark in Washington DC  | November 5, 2007 6:30 PM

Terry wrote...

Its already been said that the man continues to pick out of form players, continues to pick players out of position.
Often the team looks to have no shape.
He was ok in the small Bolton pool, obviously he has difficulty when given a huge transfer budget.
We were bothered when he came, afraid he would use the long ball game, what we have is an even worse situation, playing no system at all.
Yes we looked good in patches against Spurs but even Sunderland and Boro looked good against them.
The bloke that hired him had a very bad track record when taking on managers, that alone should give you an idea of what to expect from Our Sam.

Posted by: Terry  | November 5, 2007 7:49 PM

mag in boro wrote...

high tech training methods dont win derbies,the form side doesnt always win a derby.
Passion and pride..a derby should make you run that bit further tackle that bit harder and a refusal to lose to a bunch of halfwits
we have to go at the scum from the start forget pompey and what tabloids have said its history now everyone at our club from ashley(wear your strip mate)to the players to each and every fan should be thinking about turning the scum right over
we need 11 players with heart to stand up and be counted willing to put themselves on the line not only for 3 points but for every black and white fan wherever they might be(and by the way dropping our ticket allocation wont stop us outsinging you)
Harper Enrique Beye Taylor Cacapa(no better way to redeem himself)Nzogbia Emre Barton Milner Viduka Martins(wants to play for us)...subs Owen(you may as well get your wedge on bench doing nothing instead of standing around on pitch)Smith(just for sheer entertainment value when we 3-0 up i.e judas chopra row z please)+3
at this moment we are only 4 points off europe and no i dont think we will qualify it isnt the doom and gloom some are portraying but performance wise far from brilliant but we have shown improvement from last year
So get behinds the lads stuff the scum to send them back to the championship where they belong

BRITISH BY BIRTH
GEORDIE BY THE GRACE OF GOD

Posted by: mag in boro  | November 5, 2007 8:00 PM

Peter Harper wrote...

It is said that calling for the managers head after only a few games is a kneejerk reaction.That may be so but one thing is certain and that is we are extremely average.Make no mistake we have good players but they are without direction, rudderless.
It is either 1.The manager or 2.the coaching staff.
I have felt for a long time that the coaching staff are not up to it.We need coaches of international stature.However I do believe that Allardyce will prove not up to the challenge as he is bereft of attacking ideas and is tactically naive.
You've either got it or you haven't and Allardyce definitely has not.
It is not being kneejerk or cruel to suggest this.It is fact.
Are we going to fall further behind the top teams in the money stakes by missing out on Europe once again.If we keep the same structure as is in place at this moment then the answer is a resounding yes.Sorry but action needs to be taken.
Freddie Shepherd has dealt us the joker in the pack again.

Posted by: Peter Harper  | November 6, 2007 12:47 PM

mark wrote...

Rapidly losing faith in Allerdyce. Going for a draw at mighty Reading was bad enough,but the debacle which was Saturday is totally unnaceptable. Either the players arn't good enough or the manager cannot motivate,inspire or get team tactics and selections right (i personally think it's a bit of both)Allerdyces Bolton was organised,disciplined,tough to beat,had players in their right positions who knew their jobs and were physical. I don't see any of this in the current Newcastle side,and this is with a whole new back four and Geremi,Barton,Smith and Viduka added to the squad.Some of Allerdyces comments amaze me and i wonder if he has the same ambitions as the fans? If i was Mike Ashley i'd break the bank for Wengers scouts and a bottle of his man management skills! because Arsenal are the worlds richest club now,play amazing football and hardly spend a penny in the transfer market. For Toure read Cacapa,for Henry read Smith,for Fabregas read Geremi,for Viduka read Adebayor.....I could go on but i'm getting depressed but this is nothing compared to how i'll feel if it goes pear shaped on Saturday.

Posted by: mark  | November 6, 2007 1:45 PM

Paul Patterson wrote...

It was stated in last nights paper by Alan Oliver that Sam Allardyce has always planned to retire at 55, he is currently 52.

What sense would it be to appoint a manager who has designs on not being around for the long term, two or three years isn’t good enough for Newcastle United, we’ve had that in the past.

Two things, I’ve always said, never sack the manager as a knee jerk reaction and sacking the manager isn’t always the answer, but this relies heavily on having the RIGHT manager in place in the first instance.

Second I’ve never been the one to immediately go to the past whenever a manager gets sacked, (ie: Keegan) but if, as Alan Oliver pointed out that the board have sounded out Alan Shearer to take over after Allardyce retires, then what better short term option can there be than Kevin Keegan, he doesn’t want a long term future in the game and coming back would always been seen as “Unfinished business� on not only his part, but the fans.

It’s always the mantra of every Newcastle fan when someone’s sacked, Keegan gets a high backing in the polls, but with me he’s always low down the options, but just for sheer novelty value and the fact that the sheer euphoria and public enthusiasm would carry us through games, we have a good squad, just a poor defence, heck it could be like 95/96 all over again- he certainly wouldn’t have us in trouble like Roeder and Souness did.

Sam has so far done himself very few favours and despite his protestations in his first press conference that we need not worry about the style of football we were going to witness, we have witnessed, well rubbish. I still pray he will revamp his system to give us a chance of attacking every once in a while.

Even when we appointed Souness I thought;- fine he wasn’t my choice at all, but lets hope he just manages it this time, believe it or not I actually had more negative thoughts about Roeder getting the job than Souness.

We face Blackburn, Sunderland, Arsenal and Liverpool in the next few games, imagine what return we will get from that?

Worried? I am!

Paul.

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | November 6, 2007 1:51 PM

Chris Millar wrote...

As a Pompey fan, I have a huge regret - not being there on Saturday. Turning down a last minute rail ticket was not exactly my best footballing decision.

I found the blog and most of the comments realistic. All that has happened is that you had a bad day at the office (not all your fault, we played well and did not let you play) and are away to your derby nemesis on Saturday (and real derbys, where it is a city vs city thing, not just different factions in the same city, are tense affairs before, during and after the game).

Until this season, under Redknapp we have been crap away. He always seemed to instil a 'we are going to lose' mentality in the players. Other than the year we drew one all, you've seen just how bad we could be at SJP.

Something has happened this season and, so far, we have been bloody good away (not at The Emirates, but I suspect the way this season's champions played had a lot to do with that).

If 'Arry can turn himself and the squad around I'm damn sure Big Sam can do it for you.

Thanks for Blog - I may well return and read future entries.

Posted by: Chris Millar  | November 6, 2007 6:58 PM

Mohd Farez wrote...

I agree with Paul.
Sam is trying to make NUFC play like Bolton.
Too bad we can't play like that with the players we have.
Even NUFC supporters as far me in South East Asia isn't happy with the football we play.
I think we'll definitely lose to Sunderland if Sam continues with this style.
If we have to lose to have a change then it's sad. But if there must be a quick change, then Keegan is the choice. I'm 100% sure he'll change things around IMMEDIATELY!!

I believe Keegan would get the best out of the lot of players we have here.

It will be a dream for the fans to have him back to settle the unfinished business with Sir Alex and Manchester United!

The least Big Sam could do is seek Keegan advise :)

Come back Keegan!

Posted by: Mohd Farez  | November 7, 2007 5:17 AM

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