It wasn't nice to look at but do Newcastle fans care?
Well the Tyne-Wear derby certainly wasn't pretty was it?
But Newcastle United's blushes were saved by a fortunate James Milner equaliser and the cross bar.
In the end the Toon fans were in great voice singing "get the drinks in for the lads" to the black and white clad Mike Ashley but we were pretty close to a horrible result.
Sunderland will never get a better chance to beat Newcastle and for Sam Allardyce and his team the hope has to be we can get our season up and running again when the international break is done and dusted.
That now won't be easy though with Liverpool next in Toon but had Newcastle lost to Sunderland (and they came very close to it when Michael Chopra rattled the bar) the unrest at Gallowgate really would have kicked in.
And while that might be stating the obvious you know just how hard it would have been to face Liverpool to try to get a result on the back of derby disaster.
It wasn't all bad news at the Stadium of Light, Newcastle showed the battling qualities needed on the road and if they can keep that up in the next series of away games perhaps the bad form will go away.
We are also still waiting for Michael Owen to hit top gear and with two more internationals for him to get through once again we are watching England with fingers crossed.
And what about Oba Martins, he doesn't look a happy bunny and the usually bouncy Nigerian could hardly raise a smile when the away section chanted his name.
The top scorer for me makes a massive difference when he is in the team and hopefully he will be smiling again soon.
For now though we take the point gratefully, local pride is in tact (only just) and we ended the run of bad form just at the right time.