What next for Newcastle fans?
Talking about Newcastle United is certainly a touchy subject at the minute but it's fairly obvious that if Sam Allardyce didn't know what us Geordies are all about before the Liverpool debacle, which comes not that long after the Pompey debacle, he should now.
Unfortunately patience is not on the menu on Tyneside and it's easy to see why after the 3-0 defeat at the hands of Liverpool.
Basically if you are experienced enough to have watched Newcastle win a trophy (and I'm not talking about the Northumberland Senior Cup) you are old enough to be a some of the current player's mam or dad, or if we are talking about a domestic trophy a grandad, grandmother or even a great grandad or great grandmother!
Put it this way it was a long time ago - but to be fair the frustrations and abuse that came the way of Big Sam against Liverpool weren't even about the trophy drought because most people have actually threw the towel in on seeing United win something - it was all about the performance and the fear that this team - like the one before it - is going nowhere.
It was all about the current state of the Toon team that were blown away by a Liverpool side that didn't even break into a sweat to beat us.
Surely it's not asking too much to see United give it a go, a proper go.
They didn't even need to get out of first gear and everything that United tried was easily gobbled up by the Reds.
Never before have Toon fans turned on a manager so early.
Kenny Dalglish got at least 9 months, Ruud Gullit walked off the Wembley pitch with Toon fans chanting his name even though we lost to Man U and he still had their backing up until the start of his second term, Bobby Robson quite rightly had a good crack at things and even Graeme Souness seemed to make friends and enemies in equal measure until he finally lost the plot.
Glenn Roeder knew what the fans wanted and tried to give them it but ultimately fell short.
But Big Sam seems to be up against it already after just a few months in charge.
He's big and hard enough to turn it round but time is seemingly against him.
When the team was winning people were content and could put up with a "different" style of play.
Yet it's all gone pear shaped for now - we didn't even manage a shot on target yesterday!
Allardyce has vowed to do it his way but unless Newcastle go to Blackburn and pull off a positive result the clash with Arsenal, in front of the Geordie nation, could push most fans to the limit - that's if they haven't already arrived there.
We've got the players, we've got the fans, we've got the stadium and you won't find a city like Newcastle when it comes to obsession with football.
So what's it going to take to put this club back where it belongs?