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The Mike Ashley era officially starts here

Posted by Lee on January 15, 2008 9:27 AM | 

THE TOON'S TOP MAN JETS IN TO GET HIS NEW BOSS

Mike Ashley will be back in Toon today to team up with chairman Chris Mort for what promises to be the official start of a whole new era for Newcastle United.

The pair made it clear that the appointment of Sam Allardyce wasn't theirs and while many pundits, who haven't even set foot in St James's Park, blame the fans for hounding Big Sam out, the truth is the departed boss probably had enough time to stamp his authority on the team.

True, eight months isn't long but if you told your boss at work that you needed three years to get things right, what would they say?

The need for stability is one thing but how long could you as a supporter have put up with watching the long ball game?

How many more away trips to Wigan could you realistically been able to afford or justify to your family?

Was it was worth the best part of £100 a day after Christmas Day?

And could you stomach going to the likes of Reading and Fulham to play for a point?

To stick with Big Sam didn't make any business sense and more importantly no football sense.

He had to go simple as that.

And you have to credit Mort and Ashley for having the bravery to first of all stick with him, and secondly take the brunt of the criticism for showing him the by now worn out exit door at St James's Park, which has accounted for eight managers in the last 11 years.

But enough of Big Sam, the page must now be turned.

And while throwing the book away with several pages left in it may upset the environmentally people of the world - a new fresh book is desperately needed.

It's thought that the new manager who comes through the door must play attractive football.

But the only other requirement is that the manager must have experience at the top level.

And today Mort says the manager is unlikely to be with a team already in the Champions League or who only has ambition to manage in La Liga or Serie A - which would appear to rule out Jose Mourinho or Marcello Lippi.

Does the criteria also rule out Alan Shearer for now?

Maybe but what price Big Al coming in to work with a top manager before taking over in future years?

Shaerer should not have to cut his teeth in the lower leagues, that doesn't work.

Ask Tony Adams or Tony Cottee that question.

But if anybody knows what is needed in the Toon hotseat it's Big Al.

Personally, I think Shearer could step into the job yesterday and just like Kevin Keegan did he could get by without experience because of his knowledge of the game and love for the club.

You get the feeling that the Babayaros of the world would have lasted five minutes under Shearer and we won't take any trouble from even the strongest characters in the dressing room.

The race is still wide open for the new boss with plenty of hats getting thrown into the ring while some are merely hovering their hat over the top of it in the hope that Ashley will grab it.

But whatever happens with the search for a new boss today let's hope the Toon's Tycoon delivers a manager that entertains and gives us our Geordie pride back.

MORT AND ASHLEY'S CRITERIA
(A taste of tomorrow night's match programme)


New manager expectations from Chris Mort

*The new manager must have the team playing with the right balance of winning football and stylish football.
This is probably the most difficult task.
There are some clubs in the country where it is essential that the team generally tries to play football with some flair, and this is one of them.
In the most difficult league in the world it is only the great managers that can combine that sort of style with winning.
We appreciate we will have defeats and losing runs along the way but if the team is not trying to play football “on the carpet� as Sir Bobby Robson recently described it I think they will always struggle to win over the followers of Newcastle United.

*We would like a manager willing to develop the youth side of the club.
For too long the club has missed out on too much of the young footballing talent in the region and, these days, that talent also needs to combined with young talent sourced both nationally and internationally.

*A manager that can speak English.
There have been media suggestions that we would only appoint a British manager. That is not true.
However, we think this is a big enough job without the manager having to operate through an interpreter, so the manager will have to be someone who is able to speak English.

*We need someone willing and able to take on, and cope with, Newcastle United.
As a big club with massive potential this is a fabulous club to manage, and some of the candidates we have talked to appreciate that fact.
However, we are not currently a Champions League team, and in six seasons out of the last ten we have finished in the bottom half of the Premier League.
That means we are not necessarily going to interest a manger who is already at a team playing Champions League football or whose only ambition is to manage a top team in, say, Spain or Italy.
We have also seen over recent months the pressures placed on Newcastle United and its manager by some of the press and occasionally by some of the supporters – we need someone who is willing and able to handle that.


WHAT DO YOU THINK?

YOUR OPINION AS A TOON FAN COUNTS SO FEEL FREE TO LEAVE COMMENTS BELOW

Comments (42)

Bev wrote...

Why can't for once we have a world class manager not a manager that another team wants rid of for the money or who have no experience. Look at bobby robson, had he not been stupidly sacked by freddy shepherd i believe we would have stability and good management now. The media just expect Newcastle to have a mediocre manager and be happy with it, they slate us for wanting better, if they had paid the money we do and other clubs had spent as much as we have, they would expect a much better football club and even a trophy.

Posted by: Bev  | January 15, 2008 10:58 AM

Archie Brand wrote...

My God!

What's this? Sensible opinion with regard to Big Sams Toon demise?

At this time of journalists jumping on the Bash Ashley band wagon how refreshing it is see an article with a journalist actually looking at it from the new owners point of view.

As Newcastle fans are we really so thick that we can't figure out that what is good for Ashley must untimately be good for Newcastle?

We have to realise Ashley is not Shepherd. Ashley has put a lot more money in and its a business to him. A business that needs to be profitable.

Good sensible article with the possible exception of the Shearer PR. He doesn't need it, and we dont need him.

This is not the time to experiment by giving the new kid in the class the keys to the combine harvester.

The likes of Keegan and Keane are specials. You cannot realistically expect the new kid to get it right first time. And if it was my 250 million I think I'd be a bit wary.

On you go Ashley. Do it your way and best of luck.


Archie
Bahrain

Posted by: Archie Brand  | January 15, 2008 11:18 AM

Paul Patterson wrote...

I’ve remarked elsewhere that Sky reporters following Alan Shearer (And family) through an airport, much like they did with Kevin Keegan yesterday is absolutely scandalous, the media should let a story break, before attempting to break it themselves.

Gerard Houllier would be a great choice, certainly he seems to be the foremost person wanting it, without actually saying as much.

He ticks all the correct boxes, with Premier League experience to boot.

I only shift my attentions to him, for the simple reason that my first choice wouldn’t touch us with a ‘Special’ barge pole.

I’ve also said before, unlike the London based idiots of the media, the ‘Vicious’ Toon Army, did not hound Allardyce out of a job, Allardyce on more than one occasion, signed his own resignation letter, criticising his own (Third choice) players, playing players out of position and above all else, boring the pants of us, for a very expensive price.

Over the last two days I’ve actually warmed to Greame Souness more than I did to Allardyce in eight months, Souness having insinuated that he was quoted only £2m for Albert Luque and not wanting to sign either him or Owen, but our friend Freddy Shepherd had other plans, a scenario which seems familiar in Sir Bobby Robsons autobiography.- Not too sure about the Faye, Babayaro and Boumsong deals though Greame? He even said he’d fancy another bash at managing us- Calm Down Greame!

If Gerard Houllier is prepared to take us on in the position we find us in, then we might as well bite the bullet and appoint him, as he much have big plans to take over a club, in this state.

I also heard that Ashley was prepared to offer £5m+ to Redknapp to take on the job, well I’m sorry £5m a year can get you a far higher calibre of manager than ‘Del Boy’ Mr Ashley.

Paul.


Posted by: Paul Patterson  | January 15, 2008 11:31 AM

ELFER wrote...

I'm convinced they (MA and CM) will come up by the end of the day with the new man and for that must be either HUGHES (first choice) or HOULLIER (backup).

I think it is a big chance for HUGHES to make the next important step towards his MANU-dream and that means he has to prove himself in the "bigger" cashed transfermarket and also to gain experience in managing a championsleage would be nice within his CV, right?

Doesn't this sound promising? I think so.

Posted by: ELFER  | January 15, 2008 11:38 AM

gordon wrote...

Gerad Houllier would be a disaster.Health problems,one dimensional football,he won cups at liverpool over 6 years ago and wasted millions on rubbish

Posted by: gordon  | January 15, 2008 11:48 AM

Snapper wrote...

Superb article Lee, it is the passion for a lot of southerners to get on the bandwaggon with their jaundiced views fuelled by the Red Tops on what should happen at NUFC. The sacking of Mourinho, arguably the most sucessful import manager ever, raised less column inches than the demise of Allerdyce, why should that be? To court the opinions of ex players, a la Ian Wright is merely to get an opinion that dos'nt ruffle the feathers of the establishment, one ex players "opinion" is much like the rest, unless it is a player that has actually played for the Toon, only then do you get a balanced view.

Posted by: Snapper  | January 15, 2008 12:09 PM

desmon wrote...

other than a new manager...i think our club needs a new crew of scouts...

like 6months after boumsong had signed for us...vidic joined man utd(and for less money)....i suppose he wouldnt mind playing for newcastle at tht time....
similar case for daniel agger....
even christopher samba would be a better purchase.....
and imagine if we chose c.ronaldo instead of hugo viana............................................................

it seems like our scouts are just judging from the players' reputation(hugo viana was once voted as the best young player in europe...) ...and not their own observations...and they seldom exploreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


please tell me i'm wrong LEEEEE

Posted by: desmon  | January 15, 2008 12:50 PM

Newcastles Premiere NLE wrote...

Yesterdays shameless plugging of his friend shearer and th same again today. Alan Oliver spent the day in print and on SSN telling us that WE want shearer and that we will be chanting for him against stoke and that we will vote in droves in the chronicle vote for Shearer.

Well its backfired hasnt it? We have voted and we DON'T want Shearer. Keegan won the vote by a country mile.

So if we have voted that we don't want shearer and ashley and mort have (by anal olivers own admisson) told shearer it wont be him, then WHY OH WHY IS OLIVER STILL PUSHING?

As the local rag the chronicle is supposed to represent the peoples voice, THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN WITH THEIR VOTES!

We have paid the 20p per message of whatever it costs, so now put in print who we want, NOT WHO YOU WANT!!

Ryder's reply: The comment is a bit unfair, we aren't pushing any candidate all we are doing is reporting the situation as we know it/see it using our network of contacts.

Posted by: Newcastles Premiere NLE  | January 15, 2008 12:52 PM

Marky Mark wrote...

Well my vote would certainly be for Houllier, experienced has won trophies both in england and abroad, has a knowledge of the Premier League, speaks very good english and still played young british players coming through Liverpools academy. Seems like he fits the bill perfectly to me. Keegan is from a past era and it is debatable whether he can recaptue what made him so popular and will probably be the incoming manager under the most pressure if things don't go the same way as his first reign. Shearer may not have the experience but has a lot of power at the club and a presence about him that will command respect and attention. Not to mention the big name that will attract players to the club. Who knows wether it was he himself who engineered the rise under roeader while in a number 2 role and when he left and roeder was his own man it quickly went sour and he loat the dressing room...something Shearer will be hard pressed to do himself. I certainly would not want Hughes in charge as I don't think he offers anything more than what Allardyce did, and i'm surprised the club havn't pushed the boat out to sound mourinho out about taking the job, maybe not the biggest entertainer but he knows how to win and will certainly command respect from players and fans alike.

But having said all that, whoever takes over they must be given time by the fans and money fromt he owner. Mike Ashley must back the manager whoever he is with new players if requested, and also have patience that things will eventually be put right and not look for an overnight fix. The fans i'm sure will accept defeat if the team at least shows willing and trys to win games rather than sit back hoping for a draw. but they must get behind them and support them through what is sure to be a tricky start to their tenure.....whatever happens the future will be interesting indeed.

Posted by: Marky Mark  | January 15, 2008 12:59 PM

JC wrote...

I agree with the majority of this article, except the Shearer PR. I would like AS to be manager one day but now is too soon. As for Houllier I'm not convinced, do people forget that when at Liverpool they were one of the most boring teams to watch EVER. Pragmatic, counter attacking outfit, certainly not in the Keegan mould that people are crying out for, plus the disasters in the transfer market. This was a man who inherited Owen, Gerrard and Carragher and wasted money on Diouf, Cisse, Diomede and Cheyrou - and he tried to sign Boumsong. Not for me thanks. Am I the only one who would like to see Van Gaal or Hiddink?? Look at what Van Gaal has done with Alkmaar, surely he'd be tempted by the toon, and we'd have a team that went out to attack the opposition. If not I'd be happy with Hughes, though do believe that Man Utd are his ultimate goal

Posted by: JC  | January 15, 2008 1:00 PM

Newcastles Premiere NLE wrote...

Lee, I don't think my comment is unfair. Three pages given pretty much entirely to Shearer because he is who "the fans want". Its not right. The vote, which I'm sure was only done because Oliver thought Shearer would walk it, has shown Keegan to be three times more popular than shearer in the eyes of the fans. So where is the page after page coverage today pushing Keegan forward as OUR choice?

Its not there, but there is a lot written about Houllier, who, would you believe it, wouldn't be averse to working with shearer. That tells its own story. I suspect most readers can see straight through this reporting for what it is.

Posted by: Newcastles Premiere NLE  | January 15, 2008 1:29 PM

David Hart wrote...

Lets get Gerrard Houlier with Big Al as his assistant. Houlier has many similarities with SBR. Not least is a proven trcak record, the fact that he plays the game the right way and is a 'safe pair of hands.'

Posted by: David Hart  | January 15, 2008 1:31 PM

robustyoungsoul wrote...

This fan base has become so delusional it makes me want to weep.

Posted by: robustyoungsoul  | January 15, 2008 1:32 PM

Sean K wrote...

Firstly Lee, great article, makes a lot of sense, and is a refreshing piece of journalism to read.

My vote goes to Houllier or Jol, Houlier's Lyon was a great time, and whether people like it or not, he was VERY successful at Liverpool, won a lot of trophies there, and let's face it, even though Rafa is a TOP TOP Manager, he hasn't exactly improved their PL status has he?

Keep up the good work Lee!

All the best from 'sunny' Essex

Posted by: Sean K  | January 15, 2008 1:39 PM

DANIEL RIDLEY -- TORONTO wrote...

I THINK THE BEST SCENARIO IS THE TEAM APPROACH WITH REGARDS TO THE NEXT MANAGER, IDEALLY BOTH MEN HAVE TO BE GEORDIES HMMM............. HOW ABOUT SIR BOBBY & BIG AL. SHEARER COULD PIGGY BACK ON ALL ROBSON'S WORLDWIDE FOOTBALL CONTACTS, WITH A VIEW OF TAKING OVER COMPLETELY WITHIN A COUPLE OF SEASONS, WHAT DO YOU SAY FAN'S?

Ryder's reply: It's amazing that we let Sir Bobby Robson leave the club in the first place.
Even if he wasn't going to be manager, he could have been a great director in some capacity.
And he certainly didn't seem to have a problem playing second fiddle to Steve Staunton with Eire.
Surely he could have given some kind of input given his wealth of experience and raw passion for the game.

Posted by: DANIEL RIDLEY -- TORONTO  | January 15, 2008 1:52 PM

IAN wrote...

Could we not kill two birds with one stone and go for Benitez?

Posted by: IAN  | January 15, 2008 2:07 PM

iain nicolson wrote...

the only type of manager that fits that description you give lee is a dutch one.


hiddink/advocaat/van gaal/beenhaker

they all play good football

they have managed internationally

they all speak english

they have all developed good teams out of lesser players through coaching

they have all brought on some young players at some level

they have all managed clubs/countries with big expectations


to pretend that shearer/houlier fill all those critiera layed out by you is daft and will only land us in it again.

houlier play free flowing football, maybe at lyon where he had the players bought for him and inherited the best french team in history from a manager who has proved to be a flop elsewhere in a 2 team league. lyon who are currently being managed by another huge flop over in england perrin.

houlier knows a lot about football but coaching attacking teams is not his skill imo.

Ryder's reply: As long as it isn't Ruud Gullit!

Posted by: iain nicolson  | January 15, 2008 2:07 PM

Tony Toon wrote...

I loved Keegan's Newcastle but am firmly of the opinion that returning to a previous commitment never works. I also think that although Shearer might well do a great job I would hate to see his standing on Tyneside embarrasingly go sour if it all went wrong - after all, we are not in great shape at the moment so it would be a huge risk for Ashley and Shearer. No, I think that it is just the wrong time - not for Shearer but for Newcastle. If I can comment further on FS sacking Robson, if my memory serves me correctly, I believe that Shepherd was just carrying out the wishes of the supporters who appeared to have lost confidence in the ageing genius. As you can tell, I'm at a bit of a loss for any firm opinion as to who should take over so I think the best plan is to leave the decision to the owner. It is in his best interests to get the right man and his track record in business is pretty good so I'm going to sit back and "enjoy" the ride - as I have done for the last 50 years.

Posted by: Tony Toon  | January 15, 2008 2:08 PM

karl robson wrote...

why not poll season ticket holders or failing that just pick someone out of the crowd (lets face it things can't get much worse)to do the job, and as for overpaid so-called stars underperforming why not just pick the team from the stands on a saturday and watch how much passion and pride are on dislay then.

Posted by: karl robson  | January 15, 2008 2:19 PM

Geoff Forster wrote...

Don't want Houllier - see Gordon's comment.

Hughes if successful would become a target for Manure when Fergy finally leaves.

KK and/or Shearer are the only options.

Unless Mr Ashley really can persuade the 'Special One' to come to the best football club in the world ...

Ryder's reply: I just get the feeling that Hughes would be unlikely to risk making a mess at Newcastle to hinder his chance of being Man U boss.
Bryan Robson's eventual Boro exit probably in my opinion cost him that chance and Steve Bruce's chopping and changing in jobs ended his.
But Hughes is pretty much squeaky clean and is doing a steady job.

Posted by: Geoff Forster  | January 15, 2008 2:30 PM

Dan wrote...

Hmmm, I think Houllier would probably do a good job, hopefully getting us into and winning the uefa cup or FA cup, he would cetainly help foreigners like Enrique settle into the Premiership and would probably make some good buys too, however I don't think he would fit Ashleys and Morts credentials and would be one of the last choices for the job.
Shearer seems like Roy Keane to me, good manager, inspires players but useless in the transfer market so I would only vote for him if someone like David Dein (Ashley's mate apparently) would come in as a director of football and bring in some players that are value for money for once.
If Mourinho is after the Liverpool job and is too up his own **** to manage Newcastle, why don't we do him a favour and go for Benitez, he knows he's more or less out at the end of the season and like Houllier is great at both working with foreigners and home grown talent.
Keegans past it for me though i'm afraid, if he could bring the good times back to Newcastle then he would have seen some relative success with Fulham, England and Man City.
I also have to agree with a previous poster that we need some new scouts in aswell as a director of football, for as much as we have milner and n'zogbia there have been way too many flops come to the club. Also I have to say that Nigel Pearson also has to go, hes a decent coach but doesn't cut the mustard as assistant/caretaker manager.

Posted by: Dan  | January 15, 2008 3:51 PM

funlovingexpress wrote...

My vote would go for Van gal because of the football he plays and also he has a winning mentality.

I am not in favour of Houllier by a long way. His signings appeared to go downhill once he started managing on his own. The brazillian coach who is in the worlds top 6 sounds ideal to me. He also has managed in Europe and has just won the cup.

So you have a chance of recruiting a manager who just last season picked up the MANAGER OF THE YEAR award in Van Gaal or a coach who is voted the 6th best manager in the world.

Instead people are talking about the likes of Hughes and Shearer as having potential. Well the guys I have mentioned have fulfilled their potential.

I also think that to not have van gaal or the brazillian chap in your poll is ridiculous. Were you scared Keegan or Shearer might not win it if the had some serious competition?

Posted by: funlovingexpress  | January 15, 2008 3:54 PM

Tom wrote...

Whoever they pick for manager. Must have Shearer Number2. Look what happened when he could not play.When he was behind Roader they played well but never the same since. When liverpool were top team. Twice their Asst.became very good managers.Plus they were Geordies.

Posted by: Tom  | January 15, 2008 4:01 PM

Sy wrote...

My tuppence for the day...

Let's put things into perspective. A couple of days ago it seemed nailed-on that Harry Redknapp would be installed as manager. A couple of days later and now the name of trophy-winning, top 4 securing Gerard Houllier is the widespread favourite. (Without question Mourinho is my preferred choice, and pie in the sky it may be, I did find it quite baffling that he didn't feature on the Chronicle poll given what I've seen this week.) But let's pretend for a second that Harry did take the job...What percentage of us would've said yes to turning back the clock and taking Houllier if he was offered to us now? I'd wager it'd be high.

Desmon: I could not agree more with your comments. I just hope the powers that be take these on board.

JC: I seem to recall Hiddink ruled out coming to England (for the national job at the time) because of his tax problems, and vanished of to Russia as a result. I accept your point regarding Van Gaal, though. I was also very interested by yesterday's comments on the Werder Bremen manager, Schaaf. I'd sooner this type of appointment then many of the others mentioned this week.

Paul Patterson: Your point about the calibre of manager you get for £5m is spot on. Exactly what I said when this news broke.

Posted by: Sy  | January 15, 2008 4:47 PM

Anonymous wrote...

I would agree. Command of the most prevalent language is necessary. I just can't believe how bad Allardyce has made the team. Dyer gone, Solano gone, Parker gone, and Sibierski gone. Chelsea spends 15 on 1 player who will be a rock in their line up and Allardyce spends that to renew a team and on top of that asks to be patient as he's making 3 per year. Newcastle needs a Manager who can take the team now and win and maybe make an Edmilson type signing or Berbatov or Brown in the future. Allardyce has made the team worse.

Posted by: Anonymous  | January 15, 2008 4:48 PM

Michael wrote...

Can't help but feel slightly uneasy at all this 'fondness' for Sir Bobby..

can't remember that at the time when aspects of our supporter base, and this newspaper, happily championed his dismissal.

As far as today's news goes, would have to say Houllier is a proven winner, but he will need time and will not provide the 'stylish' football that we seem to crave ( i'd prefer that we get stability, win a few games and move onwards and upwards before we start worrying about the number of backheels per half we need to do.

His Liverpool teams, containing better players than we have now, were more functional than expansive but they won trophies and qualified for europe.

If he brought those qualities here, great, but i am worried that the hierachy are pushing for a style above substance approach, and Houllier won't suit that mindset.

Posted by: Michael  | January 15, 2008 5:06 PM

YIANNIS MAZIS wrote...

From Aghios Nikolaos Kreta Greece.KEVIN KEEGAN FOR EVER

Posted by: YIANNIS MAZIS  | January 15, 2008 5:14 PM

David M wrote...

I fully agree with your article and actually am quite optimistic about the future. Of the managers currently rumoured to be under consideration all look quite attractive, a stark contrast from previous recruitment drives:

Hughes has big club experience but also has done great things on a limited budget.. his buying is good, his style of play attractive but not niaive.. and no question marks around his integrity

Whose heart would not leap at the prospect of a Keegan return? .... at club level he got every club he managed promoted .. usually playing great football .. almost uniquely in modern football he left all his clubs of his own volition not because he was "wanted out"

.. and a top foreign manager is probably a thought that appeals to many of our "heads". My own preference would be Van Gaal but clearly Houllier has a record that merits serious consideration.

And so to Shearer, in my view also an excellent candidate. He would unite the fans and add stature to the club. His status would also guarantee him that most precious commodity of time. I don't see lack of experience as an issue, it did not stop Dalglish winning the double at Liverpool, or Sounness at Rangers .. or Gullet at Chelsea .. let alone Keegan. He has been out of the dressing room 18 months which is long enough to establish independence but not so long that he is out of touch.

We have had 3 managers that commanded minority support from the outset ..so when the going got tough a drama inevitably became a crises . We have also avoided Redknapp, yet another character embroiled in controversy for whom I think the same would apply. However I think we now have a real chance to get a manager that can command support from both the terraces and the boardroom .. That, on Tyneside, is almost a unique combination .... but its an enticing one !


Posted by: David M  | January 15, 2008 6:11 PM

Hugh Gallagher wrote...

Stop messing around and ask keegan to come back and finish the job he started. Nevermind Shearer, Keegan has always been the King of Newcastle!

Posted by: Hugh Gallagher  | January 15, 2008 6:12 PM

bonnielad wrote...

i've never head of the brazilian talked about by a few readers.maybe someone like him with no affilliation to anyone in the premiership could be the "dark horse" i thought about houllier for a while but remembered his health problems as a big negative.whoever ashley appoints will have to be able to stand up for himself against the shearer element.whoever that new manager is i hope that he encourages ashley to keep away from the terraces with the fans.i don't think it is in the interest of the team for the owner to be in with fans.i think it was a novelty as a"one off".good luck to the boys against stoke.

Posted by: bonnielad  | January 15, 2008 7:18 PM

thomas carr wrote...

With the boss jetting in something has to be done sharpish about a new manager,and please a good one this time not rubbish.

Posted by: thomas carr  | January 15, 2008 7:21 PM

STEVE wrote...

MY GOD,theyre on about Deschamps now??? NO WAY. I dont want Houllier either.....wastes money on rubbish....weve had too many of them...and as for Hughes,i dont think hes up to it and even if he was it would be horrendous if he did well then defected to Manu.Dont know much about this brazilian, he sounds good but a gamble too far maybe.Keegan and Shearer for me,they aint got the pedigree of mourinho or van gaal but they are totally in synch with the city,club and most importantly the fans.They should poll us season ticket holders for an interesting view.Listened to the legends last nite and as much as i love supermac he has a bad habit of talking utter garbage.PS.....Ian Wright is the latest to slag us and our club off.....got nowt else to print methinks.....i bet the scousers dont get butchered in the media like we are when they sack benitez....who actually has won something!!!

Posted by: STEVE  | January 15, 2008 8:34 PM

Philtoon wrote...

One thing has become abundantly clear to me reading everybodys postings here tonight.
Opinion is massivly split still on who should take over, i myself think KK is the man how ever many of you would still disagree with me. My point being who ever gets the unenviable task of taming the beast that is NUFC and doesnt make good fairly quick will be for the chop like everyone else and we'll be back to square one having this same debate in twelve months time.

Posted by: Philtoon  | January 15, 2008 9:33 PM

Neil Povey wrote...

When Keegan was here the atmosphere at St. James was electric. If he hadn't fallen out with the board at the time and quit I strongly believe we would have won a trophy the following season.

When he returned to St. James as manager of Man City the supporters took the roof off as he took his place on the bench, he just ignites the place and unites all the supporters.
Please bring back KK

Posted by: Neil Povey  | January 15, 2008 10:28 PM

Buzza wrote...

Didier Deschamps is now the bookies favorite ; seems to change every half hour on Sky Sports News ! Would be a good shout - a proven winner, tactically astute, teams play with flair and speaks English and is currently unemployed !
Delighted that Harry turned us down - he would have been a backward step for this club. Just worrying that Mike Asley was willing to part with 5 mill and appoint him - bad choice - the next had better be the right one & I hope it's soon.

Posted by: Buzza  | January 15, 2008 10:40 PM

iain wrote...

anonymous - edmilson lasted 45 mins of football on his comeback before badly tearing a muscle in training the next week.

i didnt need the amount of highly paid backroom staff sam did to see that one coming.

imagine if we had let sam sign edmilson we would know have a 32yr old foriegner with a history of knee problems on 80kpw doing little more than keeping the physios busy.

Posted by: iain  | January 15, 2008 11:16 PM

RAY WILSON wrote...

When will this club learn? Gerard Houlier? -dont make me laugh-we are trundling from one managerial catastrophe to another. Houlier did win 5 trophies at Liverpool-2 of them actually dont mean anything-this is the guy who wasted millions on players that were absolutely useless -in the end Liverpool got rid of him-think for a moment 14 million for Cisse-disaster 10 million El Hadji Diouf-another disaster plus numerous more big money signings that even the liverpool supporters could not name -as they never made the grade-like Allardyce im afraid this chap would waste our money-have we not wasted enough?there is only one solution -come down off your perch Mike and Chris and get Keegan in now with Shearer-we have not got much time left to muck about-the window will soon be closed -the remnants of a team instilled by Allardyce are in free fall and that could continue no matter who you appoint . I have said many times over and over again -keegan never bought rubbish-get King Kev and AS in now -soon it will be too late.

Posted by: RAY WILSON  | January 15, 2008 11:16 PM

Peter wrote...

Well, there certainly seem to be loads of considered opinions and loads of "not-so considered" ones too! So I'm going to add my opinion to the mix.

Sad to see that Lippi may be ruled out, of course, it could be a smoke screen. He would be unquestionably my choice. Failing Lippi, Hitzfeld would be a great alternative. For those of you who have forgotten, Hitzfeld actually applied (as did Lippi) when Bobby Robson was sacked. Additionally, Hitzfeld is intelligent (he's a maths teacher) and was voted "World Coach of the Year" twice....now here's where it gets interesting.

He first came to prominence with Grasshopper Club Zurich, and he then moved to Borussia Dortmund. Dortmund hadn't won anything for 30+ years and their last league title was in the 1950s. In his first season he finished 2nd in the Bundesliga and in his second he lost to Juve in the UEFA Cup Final. He lost in the quarter final, this time to Inter. He lost again to Juve in the UEFA Cup, but in his 4th season he won the Bundesliga. He also won the Champions League with Dortmund in his 6th season. During his 6 seasons at Dortmund, he won 2 Bundesligas, 1 Champions Leage and appeared in the UEFA Cup Final, Semi Final, and Quarter Finals. He reached a Champions League Quarter Final and the following year won it.

He then took over at Bayern Munich and reached two Champions League finals, winning one (lost to Man U in the other). He won the Bundesliga 4 times, the German Cup twice and appeared in 2 Champions League Quarter Finals, and also a Semi final.

The most important thing is that he took the unfashionable Borussia Dortmund from obscurity to six fantastic seasons. Whilst people might say the Bundesliga is weak, how come his teams have dominated the Finals and knockout stages of the Champions League and the UEFA Cup.

A man like Ottmar Hitzfeld obviously knows what he's doing. We might not be able to get Wenger, but in terms of intellect Hitzfeld is his equal. He's also managed to coax some of the World's top players to play for Bayern. I reckon some of our third string players get paid a lot more than some of the Bayern players.

So lads and lasses, start a campaign to get Hitzfeld, and Luke, research him and get an article up please. If Mike can't get Lippi, Hitzfeld is the boy!!!

MIKE, if you're reading, what more evidence do you need. He wanted the job before, and you know he wants it now!!!!

Posted by: Peter  | January 16, 2008 12:59 AM

Lee wrote...

I echo some of the comments left here already. I would love to see Van Gaal installed as boss.

A proven track record and he sets his teams out to play football the way it should be played, on the deck.

Posted by: Lee  | January 16, 2008 3:01 AM

Dave B wrote...

A lawyer who is now a football club chairman and an entrepreneur who now owns a football club would be minded to remember that experience comes in many forms. Let’s get this straight, Football Management is essentially People Management. Many of the truly great managers hardly ever set foot on the training ground. They managed by force of personality and the employment of decent coaches. They moulded a club bottom up in their image. Do Newcastle have such a person waiting in the wings – well we all know the answer to that question. I find it remarkable that Ashley and Mort won’t even speak to AS. Let him convince you and stop hiding behind this Management experience nonsense because it’s a smokescreen. I’ve faith that AS would fill the gaps in his experience more quickly than someone who’d have to learn the culture of the club and its fans and quite possibly the premiership itself. Don’t kid me that the man voted the premierships best ever doesn’t know how it works.

Posted by: Dave B  | January 16, 2008 9:11 AM

brian wrote...

Houllier bought about 30 players in his years at LIverpool at most of them was not good enough. But when the won champions league with benitez only Garcia and Alonso was not bought bye Houllier. Players like Didi Hamann Sami Hyypia and Patrik Berger was really good players, but a player like Carragher never got a chance in his prefered place as central defender, what a mistake. He lost his job because he bought Cheyrou, Diouf and Diao for a lot of money and they were all shyt.
I dont think all in all he is the right man, but it depent on who else is available.Keegan said himself he lost the love and passion for the game so he will not come back

Posted by: brian  | January 16, 2008 11:38 AM

Buddy Hatton wrote...

"Can't help but feel slightly uneasy at all this 'fondness' for Sir Bobby..

can't remember that at the time when aspects of our supporter base, and this newspaper, happily championed his dismissal."

Agreed. While he'd brought us considerable prestige, the football wasn't particularly inspiring over the final months and some of his decisions (letting Solano and Speed go; acquiring some of the rubbish he did - Bowyer, Kluivert (great goalscorer when he could be bothered) - not to mention some of his earlier bad buys, like Cort; not being able to deal effectively with the likes of Robert, Dyer and Bellamy; his mystifying faith in Bramble and the Boy in the Goldfish Bowl) were dreadful.

I mean, I love the guy and hope he gets well soon, but let's not overdo it.

Posted by: Buddy Hatton  | January 16, 2008 12:38 PM

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