Joey Barton: One of the reasons we went down
There aren't too many things right about Newcastle United at the moment - and Joey Barton will remain on that list unless there is a total miracle.
Even if, once again, he has came out and protested he is a changing man.
Once again, and in my own humble opinion, Barton is one of the big reasons we are currently playing the Coca-Cola Championship.
A big money player, in this case one who can't run his own life properly, failing to perform on a consistent basis - once we had six or seven of them in our team, it's no wonder that we went down.
Throw in the off field disgrace going at boardroom level and you have the complete disaster.
Barton is supposed to be a battling midfielder who scored a few goals at Man City and looked good enough for five minutes in the eyes of Steve McClaren to win an England cap.
So far we haven't witnessed anything more than a few glimpses of that.
Had your average bloke on the street done what Barton has in the last few years, he'd be banged up and there are people who have been banged up for a lot less for a lot longer.
Barton has certainly got the clever words and he isn't a stupid bloke.
But throw into it too much money, too much drink and too much acting like a champagne Charlie, you have the sort of guy you don't to share a country with - never mind a football club.
Going back to his red card and ban by Alan Shearer, at that time there was very much a case of "he can be another club's problem now" sort of attitude around the club's Benton HQ.
It's amazing to think that there has since been another training ground incident when he fell out with Chris Hughton and Colin Calderwood in August and was booted out of the squad, only to be reinstated by the board.
You know the incident I mean, the one that everybody denied at the time ahead of the West Brom game and then Barton blurted out during a string of recent interviews!
So read into them what you want.
Barton and trouble will always bring up plenty results on a Google search and it's going to take plenty of work, good performances and angelic like behaviour to bury it all - and before that he's got to get fit.
If he is reformed for the good of Newcastle United - good.
But I'm not holding my breath because it's all been said before.
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Hoe about blaming someone who actually played? Like the pathetic Nicky Butt? the uselss Colocinni? The woeful Michael Owen. No sure I'll just take another cheap shot at JoeyBarton, even tho he hardly played.
Lee, i don't think Barton was the reason we went down, i thought you watch the toon every game?
The whole squad was the reason we went down, you simply cannot base it on the fact he got sent off against Liverpool which led to him falling out with Shearer. We were never going to win that game, so why blame Barton? What about the awful Nicky Butt that people keep praising?, What about Colo's woeful defending? Although in fairness the man had a good first half of the season until he met Steven Gerrard at St James's!
Also, Obafemi Martins poor, poor finishing, remember the Spurs game for example?... Then you got Mike Ashley and the Kevin Keegan saga going on..
Yes Barton made big errors, but the lad is a good player and will definatley play a big part in our promotion push this year.
Ryder's reply: Are you joking. It all went wrong when Barton came into the team in his first season.
Yes he was injured at times last term but if you read it I also said: "Once again, and in my own humble opinion, Barton is one of the big reasons we are currently playing the Coca-Cola Championship.
"A big money player, in this case one who can't run his own life properly, failing to perform on a consistent basis - once we had six or seven of them in our team, it's no wonder that we went down."
If you want to blame Barton, you might just as well blame Alan Smith and Damien Duff. I don't like Barton. We should never have signed him and I'd get shot of him tomorrow, but our big problem for the last few years has been the midfield, particularly the central midfield who neither covered the defence nor supported the attack and lacked the skill and guile to do anything with the ball when they had it and although we're better with Smith in the holding role, some of those problems still persist. Of course, having non-scoring forwards didn't help...
Blaming him for relegation okay so Mike Ashley, Dennis Wise and Co have done nothing then? Its all Bartons fault.
Guthrie and Nolan both got sent off at crucial moments last season...
Interviews with players this season suggest no one was pulling their weight, Barton was injured most of the season.
Oh yeah and how many penalties/defensive mistakes did Barton make?
He didnt get us relegated he was not able to keep us up because he wasnt playing.
Has he refused an interview with you or something?
I thought your anti-Barton comments this summer were your blindsighted 'Shearer at all costs' view for the club, but this seems like a personal vendetta.
"Not much right at Newcastle" - they seem to be playing well enough, 3 points clear at the top of the table is okay by me.
Ryder's reply: Have a proper read of it, it says he was "one of the reasons" we went down and apart from the fact he was pants when he did play (that's when he hasn't been in jail) then if you're happy with second tier football at Newcastle fair enough.
I'm sure it would have been all fine if Joey was playing.
Hmmm. Look at the goals that both Taylors and Coloccini were responsible for. Look at how many clearcut chances Owen fluffed (despite the national media banging on about how he would have scored had he had the chance. Look at the desperately ineffective central midfield. Look at how often Butt fouled or gave away the ball or sold his defence short. Look behind the scenes at Ashley and so on... Look at big money players who were never fit or played like they had lead in their boots.
He is one of the reasons we went down. He is one of about 1000 reasons we went down. Another reason we went down could be to a throw in that we never got, thus changing 1 game slightly. You see, stupid comment from me there, like this entire article.
I'm not a fan of Barton, but i think this blog is very poor and blind piece.
How about writing a blog on how The Chronicle constantly stuck up for the Ashley regime which contributed to our relegation? No pressure from the local media ensured that the regime continued. Do you think thats a fair assesment Lee? I'm sure you don't.
Write something inspiring and informative. Not something that you have just thought of the night before. I used to enjoy reading your blogs but in my opinion they have seriously deteriorated.
I am pleased that you have replied to my comment and said 'one of the reasons' but then why have you singled him out? Is there going to be a seperate blog for each reason now?
You can't say that Joey did not give his all when he played. Aston Villa and West Brom at home where he controlled the midfield and created chances spring to my mind. Plus with Barton playing we got 2 of our 7 wins of last season.
I would of course prefer Newcastle to be in the Premiership but then again this year we go to matches with belief that we can win, enjoyable games, good results and a team that looks and plays like they care - even when not performing their best. Last season I trudged to matches and dreaded each game, never stopped hoping for wins but neither really believing we would get them.
Why wont you add my opinion?
He is one of the reasons we went down. He is one of about 1000 reasons we went down. Another reason we went down could be to a throw in that we never got, thus changing 1 game slightly. You see, stupid comment from me there, like this entire article.
I'm not a fan of Barton, but i think this blog is very poor and blind piece.
How about writing a blog on how The Chronicle constantly stuck up for the Ashley regime which contributed to our relegation? No pressure from the local media ensured that the regime continued. Do you think thats a fair assesment Lee? I'm sure you don't.
Write something inspiring and informative. Not something that you have just thought of the night before. I used to enjoy reading your blogs but in my opinion they have seriously deteriorated.
Ryder's reply: I'm pleased that you read the blog Johnny but until the current regime shut shop and head home, I think there will be negative comments flying around left, right and centre - and some of them might hit me.
to be fair to Lee, he said he was one of a number of hghly paid waste of money players that contributed to us going down, Lee is making a comment on JB, as JB has come out and said some really head shaking things in the papers! he listed about a dozen of his problems since he arrived here and then turned around and said its not his fault its some imaginary person somewhere up there testing him????? that boy will never learn, he is nuts!! i think he may be scitz?
Lee I think its good to highlight this, yes Kevin Nolan's tackle and suspension was worse and at a really bad time i.e. 2 weeks after he was brought in to help us stay up!! never-the-less KN has is now doing something about it JB still thinks the fairies are coming to get him!???? that man will be seen on a park bench next to roy kean in the very near future..
Honestly joey didn't play that many games and he even said he couldn't even walk after the liverpool game so he would be no use anyway. he is one of the few players at the club that actually love the place along with taylor harper smith ameobi etc. blaming indviduals if thats the case blame owen blame martins blame viduka blame butt. Owen waste of time space and money. Martins love him but needed to score more. Viduka liked him done well at later part of last season. Butt just a waste of space i would pay someone to get him off us. Everyone that left knew what was going to happen, Shay Given knew it he loves us so much he couldn't bare the thought of us getting relegated. no-one blamed him for leaving. when he comes back next season we will still sing theres only one shay given because he is world class adopted geordie.
Why wont you post my comment? I've not sworn or slandered. I posted an opinion about your journalism and accusations towards Joey Barton.
I have agreed that he was one of the reasons we went down, but i have also pointed out that there are a 1000 reasons we went down. Joey being rather insignificantly 1 of them. This personal attack is not necessary.
I put it to you that the Chronicle, for its lazy journalism, refusal to stand up the Ashley regime and lack of pressure towards MA and DL last season was probably more of a contributing factor as to why we went down. How dare you put blame on 1 person like that when you also played a part.
And now you are refusing to post my comment.
I'm not a big fan of Joey Barton, as a player or a man, but this blog is utter nonesense and a classic example of half baked journalism.
Why are you refusing to post my comment?
Hello Lee,your article is as negative as Barton is a SAINT.When i think of some preformances last year of several big name players who have left now,SICK NOTE OWEN for one,that man looked lost every time& i mean every time he played,running around knowhere not tackling-not helping out not doing much at all,just biding his time leave.Barton on the other hand when he did play was always noticable for one thing or another,which was'nt always bad.A GREAT BLOG from you would be to have a REAL go at the HOOLIGANS still in ownership of our club,do you not agree?
I read the interview with Joey Barton. He has said on countless occassions he only has himself to blame and these new interviews simply say he wasn't solely to blame.
He IS treated differently to any other footballer (by fans and in the press - look at any number of incidents, tackles, arguments, goal celebrations whatever and then ask the question "If Joey Barton had done that, what would the reaction be?"
You can not ask anyone to change who they are, only how they act and react in situations they can affect. People who suffer from anger need to learn to walk away, people around them need to learn to let them.
As far as Joey Barton is concerned, the team are happy with him, the manager is happy with him, so he should cause no concern to anyone on the outside. These articles are just constant attempts to cause trouble and stir public hatred.
I am completely oblivious to why everyone is sticking up for Barton. Hes been here for more than two seasons now. How many games has he played for us? How many games has he won for us? He loves the place? You could have fooled me. 60,000 a week hes been getting in that time, because hes supposed to be a star player. Our midfield is lightweight, would it be better with him in it? Quite possibly but it's hardly happened for one reason or another. He was bought in to be the star man and hes done NOTHING, well nothing except make our club a laughing stock for buying him. Manager after after manager have put their faith in him and now look at where we are, in the championship. Joey Barton is a saint????
Barton's been dreadful this season. Gave his all? With fans like you lot, no wonder we're down!
I think most of you's are missing lee's point here, he never said it was all bartons fault.
but lately Barton has been giving it the 'im from a ruff estate, im not sorry for stickin up for my self where im from you HAVE to fight' crap in the papers ect.
well most of US were brought up on rough estates (some rougher) but it dosent mean we go round being a b*llend hittin bairns ect. thats NO excuse!!!
and as far as i can gather from his 'im a gangster' interviews he's NOT sorry for anything exept going to jail. sayin shearer was wrong in having a go at him and every1 just picks on him n all that?
"you'd think i was hitler or sumik i was only speeding" "it was only a fight"
well when he's on them wages AND reprisenting our club its not"just"anything.
especialy when your supposed to be behaving youself.
aye it IS "just" a fight when your a toerag but NOT when your reprisenting NUFC!
a quote that got me was
(shotgun goes off) "just like where i grew up" (laughfs)
the bloke thinks its big n clever man!
Now before yiz ahll start im not a Barton hater but he's had chance after chance man he wants to start keepin his mouth shut n get on withit, if he doesnt agree with tactics ect. keep it shut! get his head down nd play football.
whats the crack like "oh joey doesnt like it we better change everything to suit him"? (incase he kicks off again like?)
he probley doest like what ashleys been doing either but you dont see him kicking off with the bloke giving him 60 odd grand a week do you?
no he's not THAT daft and can restrain his actions there cant he?
I think most of you's are missing lee's point here, he never said it was all bartons fault.
but lately Barton has been giving it the 'im from a ruff estate, im not sorry for stickin up for my self where im from you HAVE to fight' crap in the papers ect.
well most of US were brought up on rough estates (some rougher) but it dosent mean we go round being a b*llend hittin bairns ect. thats NO excuse!!!
and as far as i can gather from his 'im a gangster' interviews he's NOT sorry for anything exept going to jail. sayin shearer was wrong in having a go at him and every1 just picks on him n all that?
"you'd think i was hitler or sumik i was only speeding" "it was only a fight"
well when he's on them wages AND reprisenting our club its not"just"anything.
especialy when your supposed to be behaving youself.
aye it IS "just" a fight when your a toerag but NOT when your reprisenting NUFC!
a quote that got me was
(shotgun goes off) "just like where i grew up" (laughfs)
the bloke thinks its big n clever man!
Now before yiz ahll start im not a Barton hater but he's had chance after chance man he wants to start keepin his mouth shut n get on withit, if he doesnt agree with tactics ect. keep it shut! get his head down nd play football.
whats the crack like "oh joey doesnt like it we better change everything to suit him"? (incase he kicks off again like?)
he probley doest like what ashleys been doing either but you dont see him kicking off with the bloke giving him 60 odd grand a week do you?
no he's not THAT daft and can restrain his actions there cant he?
johnny its the blog man not lee! it happens all the time its te daft capcha thing divint git si paranoid man.
and john sick note owen? what aboot barton like???
Fair do's. Seriously though, how can Lee sit there and single out Barton?
I'm not a fan of Barton, but his article should have been about the culmination of different reasons.
Its my opinion that The Chronicle had a larger part to play in our relegation, they at least could have tried? They could have reported on the Ashley regime for what it actually is. The direction in which the club was going at the time needed some pressure from the local media and they failed to deliver. I think its hypocritical to single out 1 person, why Barton? Why not Taylor or Nolan or Owen or Martins?!
Barton is an easy target, an easy story. I think Lee would find a better story with more meaning and thought if he looked a little closer to home.
Sadly, I've heard this from quite a few people and was disappointed by the lack of bite from some of the Chronic's writers when it came to criticising first Fat Sam and then Ashley
The best thing would be if Barton started playing to his full ability for NUFC as soon as possible.
Why not get rid of the thugs, Ranger and Carroll?
The reality is that professional footballers aren't all like Jackie Milburn, Terry Hibbitt, Tony Green, Peter Beardsley or Albert Bennett.
We have suffered a pretty nasty demise and it was death by a Thousand cuts . Joey Barton is no more ( or equally ,which ever side of the fence you are on ) guilty of our demise than Alan Shearer ,Mike Ashley ,Dennis Wise , Xisco , Collocini, Owen ...the list goes on .I personnally think Joey is on self destruct and judging by his colourfull past this new leaf he is turning over will probably turn out to be a marajuana one.But to blame him singlr handly for our demise is way off the mark ...Jackie W
I think it is unfair blaming Joey Barton when there were many other players who let us down
honestly, Lee must think hes banging his head off the wall... he has put a blog up about a player who is currently gobbing off in the papers, yes!!! you could have-a-go at half adozen players at this club but JB is current news!!! (as in the papers) why keep slaging off the blog over and over -just don't reply or read something else.. joey barton for all of his footy skills, hasn't justfied his mega wagea since hes been here, therefore he shouldn't be saying anything in the papers, getting sent off, arguing with players, or managers. nobody is interested in his ahem "passion" for the club, he is simply a misguided gob s**te! if he can play the rest of the season instead of nicky butt great, if he can't please lets send him home or to wigan.. cheers