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We can't afford to lose in our own backyard

By Lee Ryder on Sep 2, 10 08:36 AM

So in the end new rules from the Premier League to name a 25 man squad didn't change anything at all - well that's what it feels like.

There isn't one big name casualty that will be left sat in the stands this winter and the fuss caused over whether Steven Taylor would be frozen out proved to be nothing but trash talk.

Chris Hughton has always insisted he wants to keep Taylor and had United forced the player to sit in the stands it would have been a case of "cutting off the nose to spite the face".

The new rules are a good idea in principle but in the week that Paul Gascoigne claimed that too many overseas stars are preventing young British players making an impact in the game, it's quite clear that clubs can live with the situation and overseas players taking the place of home grown talent will continue.

Gazza said in an interview with the Chronicle: "Bringing the foreigners in has also not really gave some of the kids too much chance to develop.

"Sometimes when they get close, they're nearly there and then teams go and sign a player from abroad for £18m.

"They then end up in the lower leagues, get disheartened and stop playing."

Perhaps one idea would be that eight English players - or home grown - must be named in a Premier League match day squad.

That would certainly stop the Chelseas and the Arsenals of the world naming squads that contain no English players at all.

Or maybe the other direction to go is to name a limited number of foreign imports per match day squad.

Either way, it could pose problems.

We now live in a different world to when overseas players were rare in the English game and rules and regulations that deny the employee of a football club a chance to play is discrimination in the eyes of the European Commission.

FIFA have already had their say on this.

Two years ago Sepp Blatter backed such a quota plan, which would limit the foreigners in a team (ie starting XI) to five, and wanted it to be in place by 2012/2013 before this was deemed illegal.

Back then an EU spokseman said: "The implementation by Fifa of this proposal in the European Union would violate EU law."

Whatever way you look at it, it's a huge can of worms and bringing in a 25 man squad rule has already proved it cuts no ice when you look at the big picture (wow two cliches there for the price of one).

On a serious note and from a Newcastle point of view, you have to say Gazza has a good point.

Surely it's healthy to have the Gascoignes, Carrolls and Steven Taylors of the world coming through and pulling on a black and white shirt rather than being forced down the divisions.

Yes, it is about ability.

But the thought of an Albert Luque or a Jean Alain Boumsong standing in the way of the next big thing at Newcastle United has to be a cause for concern.

Young talented players only have a limited window of opportunity to shine.

You impress in the Academy, you move up to the reserves, you impress again and if there is availability in the first team due you get a chance.

There isn't much room for error but after last years FA Youth Cup run and the emergence of the likes of local talent like Phil Airey, Jak Alnwick, Sam Ameobi and Paul Dummett, it's been encouraging with Academy products such as Sam Adjei and Brad Inman also coming through.

Some say relegation for Newcastle had its positives, and having been through the experience you have to agree.

Andy Carroll being the ultimate example.

Had United stayed up and offered the likes of Viduka or Martins another deal, which was on the cards for the Aussie, Carroll's chances would have been limited.

Instead he scored 19 goals in the Championship and a new number 9 was born.

Ranger, Kadar and Krul - all home grown products also got their chance to shine and Ranger and Krul won long term contracts.

But what of the future, especially at Newcastle?

Personally I'd prefer to see more like Carroll come through the ranks but if the home grown rule means we see a Vuckic or a Kadar do the business, it shows that the Academy is doing its job.

In the Second Division era on Tyneside, the likes of Watson, Clark, Elliott, Howey and Thompson all came through the club.

And the modern hot-bed on Tyneside needs to be tapped into even more.

Newcastle United the club may not have won a trophy for 41 years but we DO produce fantastic Geordie footballers whether they ply their trade in black and white or end up going elsewhere.

From Beardsley to Shearer and up to the modern day in the shape of Michael Carrick - we've missed out on some top players.

The bottom line is more needs to be done to develop more English players and local talent at Newcastle United.

And if bringing through Geordie talent doesn't remain part of the fabric of the club, we really are in trouble.

10 Comments

Geordie Lee said:

Nothing will ever change because The Premier League is all about selling the product as 'the best league in the world' to as many people as possible. The powers that be don't actually care about football, they only care about making as much money from their product as possible.

If you go back to when The Premier League came into being, you will see that it claimed it would "enhance the national game"; it hasn't, it's failed dismally to do that. England's most successful World Cup campaigns all occurred before the inception of The Premier League.

Football is no longer a game, it's a business.

relton said:

1. it's a huge can of worms
2. it cuts no ice
3. look at the big picture

Three for the price of one ????

Interesting you mention Watson, elliot Howey et al - didnt a certain someone destroy that route through the club precisely so that he could bring in big name signings (including - paradoxically - Shearer)????

Ted Baxter said:

RIP Jackie Sinclair

toonagain said:

Lee, i believe all british players and teams fell below parr during the european ban impossed on british clubs in the 80's. when we were allowed back into euro comps we needed to quickly get back upto speed with the game by bringing in foreign coaches and players. this has been jumped on by the EU etc who have there own agenda but I believe it is now upto the clubs to invest more time in home grown players and hopefully in time they'll come through, until then we'll just have to wait. on top of that it seems the wage demands of UK players has been disproportinate to there skill and experience, allow cheap imports into the market; this too I belive is starting to change. UK players realise they'll have to lower the demands to get a game in the top divisions and international players are now asking for crazy wages.

Geordie Lee said:

Toonagain: Man Utd won the Cup Winners Cup in the first year that English teams were allowed back into Europe, and Arsenal won the same competition three seasons later. If you recall, at the time there was a limited on the number of foreign players you could have in your team - Ferguson was always banging on about how unfair it was, cos he could never play his strongest team in Europe.

The Premier League is to blame for the situation we have now, and The FA is powerless to stop them.

Geordie Lee said:

Just did a quick bit of research and the Arsenal side that beat Parma in 1993-94 featured 14 English players and 2 from the British Isles (who were among the subs). So an entirely English side beat an Italian side that had three non-Italian players (one of whom was Asprilla) in its starting line-up.

relton said:

Inetrestingly - Enfgland's best (recent) World Cup runs came in the middle of htis Euro ban too (1986 and 1990). Of the 1990 team - I think only Lineker and Waddle played any sort of European football during the ban.
Further argument to accomodate the fact that - far from falling behind - one could argue we benefited from the ban. (Lets ignore the terrible 1988 Euros though!!!!!).

relton said:

Inetrestingly - Enfgland's best (recent) World Cup runs came in the middle of htis Euro ban too (1986 and 1990). Of the 1990 team - I think only Lineker and Waddle played any sort of European football during the ban.
Further argument to accomodate the fact that - far from falling behind - one could argue we benefited from the ban. (Lets ignore the terrible 1988 Euros though!!!!!).

Geordie Lee said:

Must work for the Chronicle! Unless, of course, he was referring to the informed comments that follow the blog entries ;-)

I'll still trying to work out the relationship between the latest headline and the subsequent content!

toonagain said:

haha brilliant but i do believe there was a bit of a fall out, it may of taken sometime to effect the domestic game but i accept the stats are there; good work lads/ lasses. right lets think of another reason, our national team is pants and our island born players can't get a game. although i do make the point that i believe the tide is turning... hopfully the superstar footballer days have dropped off and our players can play for the team on the pay packet and free hair gel. would a winter break help? stil not convinced by capello regardless of the win.

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