Face it Brucey - derby day hammering from NUFC was in the post
On the day that Newcastle United released a commemorative "Derby Demolition" mug, Steve Bruce promised the Magpies a frosty reception when the two teams line up their soldiers again for the battle at the Stadium of Light in January.
Bruce was still fuming by United's decision to blare out Daydream Believer at the end of the derby win.
He said: "Fortunately I didn't hear it because I was inside, but others did,
"'I hope we can repeat the same dosage when they come to our place.
"It was typical of their etiquette."
That is the pot calling the kettle that after the way Sunderland went on after the mere 2-1 win they scraped for the first time in three decades!
He then said: "Seventy-one days, not that I'm counting, but that's a motivating force."
It may not have dawned on Brucey, but the scenes at the end of Sunderland's win over Newcastle were far from a wee bit of derby mocking.
Medieval is a better way of describing them.
The hatred that whistled round the Stadium of Light that day was incredible as fans poured on to the pitch to charge at Newcastle fans - some of them families with youngsters too.
It was a throwback to the ugly side of football that ruled the roost in the 1970s and 1980s that day, and while there were Newcastle fans who were guilty of invading the pitch as well, I can't recall the FA acting upon it and Sunderland appeared to get away with it Scot free.
That as they say is history.
As is Sunderland dancing on Newcastle graves in May 2009, as is Phil Brown and his microphone, as is heralding getting Oasis and Take That to the Stadium of Light as an achievement and as is the short stint of Sunderland being North-East's top dogs, the competition that only sees the light of day when Newcastle aren't top of the pile!
Sunderland fans have been swanning round as if they'd won the Champions League ever since May 2009 - until last Sunday that is.
But order has been very much restored.
For me Bruce's body language appeared to change in his post-Newcastle Press conference.
Where did the laid back smug "We're the North-East top dogs man" outlook on life go to?
Rightly or wrongly, Newcastle's fall from the Premier League occured because of serious misunderstanding of how the club should be ran and the fact that four managers took charge of the team during the 08/09 campaign.
That damage has been partially repaired by Chris Hughton.
Sunderland never became the only team in the Premier League due to footballing greatness, they scraped up and stayed up because Newcastle were so feeble and players were so disillusioned in the second half of the season two terms ago.
That's football as they say.
But keep it real Brucey, the 5-1 pasting was in the post and judging by the hunger within the Newcastle camp at the moment, they'd play Sunderland in Tesco's car park tomorrow night at midnight if they were asked to.
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"Sunderland fans have been swanning round as if they'd won the Champions League ever since May 2009 - until last Sunday that is."
Yes, this sums things up perfectly. As Newcastle fans we have every right to milk this superb result for a long time. Having seen on telly the way Sunderland fans celebrated our relegation at the end of their final home game of the 2008/09 season I think they more than deserved the total and utter humiliation they got at St James Park on Sunday.
Typical of 'their' etiquette? I think he should remember where he came from and keep his defector gob shut. He only went to the mackems when we wouldn't touch him with a barge pole after he left his last managerial post.
This has got to be the best blog I've ever read by you Lee- it's so undeniably and unequivocaly true in every single aspect. mackems worry more about our team than they do their own... and that speaks volumes of the obsessive/insular nature of a 'hick' mentality. I can imagine the red and white's standing round a porch mournfully playing their banjo's and courting thoughts of sweet revenge in january! Shame a so called geordie is adopting their backward attitude (to try and keep his job), but I hope they become so single minded about this defeat that they end up in the championship next year!
Spot on! The mackems can hardly accuse us of a lack of etiquette, I was at the Stadium of Light for the 2-1 defeat and the guy next to me was struck on the head with a sharpened coin and knocked out with a gash to his head that was pouring blood.
Their lack of etiquette also includes changing road signs to say "The only premiership team in the North East" after our relegation, carrying posters to St James Park with "FTM" on it, which doesn't mean "Five through Mignolet" and absolutely repulsive comments about Bobby Robson.
Bruce can hardly complain that singing along to a humorous choice of song at the end of the game when the fans of his club come charging onto the pitch after every single goal scored against us at the Stadium of Light. A lack of class is something that the Mackems know all about!
I think owld pumpkin heed needs to get out more. The facts are his team were smashed out of sight in the must one sided derby in years. The mackems looked like pure relegation fodder, no fight, no spirit, no skill. I'd go as far as to say they're a Bent injury away from being relegation favorites.
As for going over board the mackems can't help invading the pitch every time they win a throw in nevermind win a game against the Toon, they've always been small time & have NEVER amounted to anything in my lifetime. Yes they won the FA Cup but even then they were nothing but second division chancers who got lucky & we've had to put up with "the spirit of 73" ever since.
So grow up Bruce your not the only one counting down the days until the return, bring it on!
A great darkness has fallen over the Stadium Light; and a huge cloud of doubt has settled on the shoulders of its incumbents. While over in St. James' Park we sit in the shadow, in the the shadow of a smile.
Destiny awaits our footprints on the future, we shall not disappoint her, they shall know we passed this way.
durty mags are so BITTER.....GROW UP !!!!!!!!!1
Lee I agree with your piece however I don't think it right we played that tune at the end, it has only one result and its X-rated. The fans singing it is one thing the club playing it is another, its something you would expect from a thrid world/ south american country or eastern european. by playing that tune it just alines us with those types of places and really its where we should be moving away from. I'm not a steve bruce fan but i do agree it is bad taste. Lee I lost count at how many blogs you posted regarding the treatment the Aston Villa/ Peterborough fans gave us yet you feel its ok now the boot is on the other foot. Would Arsenal or ManU play that tune - no! it makes us look like hicks! Just because the Mackems' have little to No taste doesn't mean its ok to drop down to their level when it suits us... for me it took the shine off the win. its akin to Ali felling Foreman then instead of watching his foe fall like a once great tree while he stood tall, jumping on his chest and battering him, roared on by a section of numpties while the decent boxing fans walked out heads down...
I'm embarrassed about this article. Is Lee Ryder a profession journalist or a fanzine writer?
@Alan- I'd be embarrased to leave that comment. 'Professionalism' is a subjective term and what's wrong with fanzine writers? Are you suggesting that journalists should be devoid of emotion when writing about a subject that they are passionate about? Any writer will tell you that your opinion is a non-sequitor in terms of furthering a career in literature and Lee is pointing out many facts in this blog... mainly as a reaction to Steve Bruce's subjective bitterness. At the very least it proves that Lee is as human as the rest of us... unlike some old farts. Where you writing from like... a victorian schoolroom?
@john gray- we're bitter? You can often see mackems walking thru toon with their barber pole stripes on and they get no hassle whatsoever- I tried doing the opposite in scumderland once when i was at uni there... not a good idea! I had at least twenty shouts of 'geordie scum' from workmen and general passers by... and that was on a thursday morning when you were in the division you belong in, (championship, by the way- we enjoy it most when you have to look up from just below us and knowing you'll never quite catch up)! You're the most bitter and twisted mob I've ever had the displeasure to meet. Stroll on ya divvy!
As for the tune at the end of the game... it was all in good fun wasn't it? Mebbe the mackems will have the pleasure of playing us some music at their place... they can start practicing on their banjos and mouth organs now if they like- ha ha ha! I'm lovin it!
Maybe it should have been Daydream Deceiver that was played instead of Daydream Believer.
As for Steve Bruce and Sunderland's netiquette issue, how dare they in the light of their own past performances.
Uni in sunderland ??? there is a University in Sunderland ?????
This is amazing news to me - the thought that there are people out there who went to "university" in Sunderland is amazing enough, but that they would boast about it on a board as well ! ! ! ! !
@kingstoon- I had to go to uni in scumderland cos the course wasn't running in toon at the time. I lasted 3 months before I dropped out... not only cos it's in perdition, but cos a degree there is the equivilant of an nvq!
I think that this bunch of lads are working so well together that they will finish WAY above the Wearside Wasters. We played them off the park and I too amm counting the days untill we meet at the SOS.... after all, it'll be another three points in the bag and a goal difference boost as well!
Lee, SPOT ON again mate. To you toonagain to say we should not have played that song is like saying we should have gone in a bit easy on our celebrations and winding up these mackem scum. NO CHANCE MATE! These are our SWORN ENERMIES, any room for sentiment for these is absolutely UNFORGIVABLE! Totally ridiculous for you to say we should not have played that song. Who cares what these UNWASHED think of us? I suggest you tell BROKEN NOSE to worry about his own rubbish teams perfomance. He is just trying to take the pressure off himself. The result on sunday condemed pumpkin head to the managerial scrape heap to which he shall never ever recover again.
LONG LIVE TOON!!!
I'm surprised that the Mackems are moaning about the playing of one song.
After all, they were all back on Wearside long before the final whistle, I could see them leaving after the 2nd goal. They were flooding out after the 3rd and many who stayed failed to return after half time. They're a pathetic with a pathetic manager and pathetic fans.
Completely agree. What Villa fans did doesn't compare as they are not our rivals. If Sunderland think that their gloating, pitch invasions, DVD releases of their first home win in 30 years, road sign name changes and hanging a flag off the Tyne Bridge doesn't warrant return abuse then they are sadly mistaken. I had no problem with all of the above (except releasing a DVD of the 2-1 win! Bit sad really) as what goes around comes around. As for Alan, this is a blog, not a Chronicle article. Therefore, Lee is allowed to freely express his own thoughts and good on him. For what its worth, I haven't heard any mackems complaining about the recent gloating or song choice of the PA. Only big fat heed Brucey!
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Etiquette ?
Etiquette says Bullheed Bruce,maybe he should take an interest in his clubs supporters website "A love Supreme" (don't ask)
they show a photo of there fan coaches with FTM blazoned on them , this does not offend the Toon fans as we know how desperate there fans are but for Bullheed to say its our Etiquette he is showing that he is as desperate as his few thousand mackem saddos who turn up at the Stadium of *****
fair play to ya team they were better on the day but that song proved above all else that class just isnt in your vocabulary.we won't stoop that low [for sure]we have a class set up from our passionate manager through to our sublime chairman.you can keep ya fat classless chairman[conga chav],& ya gilfriend beating drug taking footballers we r sunderland say we r sunderland!brucie is a mackem & we're proud of him.ã42 a ticket what a rip off cheap stunt he pulled ther.